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 15 Oct 08 11:52 am |
| Anonymous wrote: | | Anonymous wrote: | | Anonymous wrote: |
you still have not answer my qns above..you hid because STI drop or you post rubbish here? this thread is about Resale Market Cooling down...we are talking about economy bad now...so market for resale is going and will be cooling soon...got it? please keep on hiding and spare us all your rubbish if you do not have the intellectual to post constructive comments here...thank you! |
aiya...those who wants to wait just wait lah...and those who wants to buy just buy lah...
You think those buyers and sellers will listen to the nonsense here? darn naive...and u think buyers unite or sellers unite will bring the price down or up? again, bloody darn naive...at this time, both seller and buyer are holding back...dont want to sell or buy. And go back and worry of food and job instead of spoutting nonsense here....careful when you type your message...your manager may spot you, it will be a very good reason for them to sacked you... |
well, whether buyers and sellers listen to me not and issue lah...but one thing for sure, no one will believe you lor..  |
Aiyah...im not sure what you have to believe on the above statement?? it's a general statement without siding buyer or seller...it is true that we gotta worry more on job and food rather than property...i'm not sure whether you did not read the message or you just fail to understand it...and regarding believe or not believe, i think we are old enough to choose whether to believe it or not. simple... |
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15 Oct 08 1:37 pm |
| Anonymous wrote: | | Anonymous wrote: | | Anonymous wrote: | | Anonymous wrote: | | Anonymous wrote: | | Anonymous wrote: | | Anonymous wrote: | | Anonymous wrote: |
Aiya...try live in Indonesia loh where one have to travel AT LEAST 3 hours to work (+ traffic time).
Anyway, can't understand why so many people want to live in the city? I am staying in Punggol now, bought 430K...I especially look for the property there cos not many people live there yet...I like it as it feels relaxing...early in the morning take a stroll where there are still alot of greenery...do you still want to live in the city when you have spend 8 hrs+ a day, 5 days a week working in the city?? But it seems like there are so many constructions going on at Punggol...it will only be a matter of time before it flooded with humans!!! haizz... Singapore is so small...soon there will be no more place like this... |
430K for Punggol 5 room ? Kena con liao.
Why not live in better location like Bishan. Got nice park or Mcrichie reservoir for morning walk. Much better for nature lover like you say you are.
Punggol got what? You like morning walking on road pavement..not even got a park? Punggol also got the chemical factory smell during some nights. Plus all the noisy airplanes flying overhead.
With so much new construction to happen in Punggol, expect more noise and dust. Not even talking about the long commute time. LRT that runs in only one direction. Useless mall. worst.
Only reason people buy is because Punggol flats are new and have the first look wow factor. That works best to trap buyers. Only after they start living, they find out all the cons. Much better buy older flat in good location and get renovated to your taste. |
I am not sure why you said he ka na conned. I think you are also not in the position to comment as well because:
1. You have not seen his house
2. You most probably do not own any house
3. You do not have the knowledge on that area. Have been looking for Punggol area for quite sometimes and decided not to go near the MRT because the valuation for high floor easily 415K now.
4. Again, you do not have knowledge on that area hence you claim that there is nothing there in Punggol and chemical factory smell??? hahaha my parents stay there and do not smell anything there? Prove of your ignorance.
5. You do not know that the most expensive flat in Singapore is actually at Punggol.
6. You do not know that the plan on Punggol 21 has already started although Im not sure how fast they will speed up the construction considering current economy crisis. But if they do not speed up Punggol 21, they will not also at other places.
7. Visit www.punggol.org to understand more about Punggol
8. You must have been living in Singapore for the rest of your life...never live in suburb before.
9. noisy airplane? how big is Singapore's sky? I live in Serangoon and I also can constantly hear plane's noise? what about those who stay in Changi? Not sure why you said this though but won't be surprise after your above comment.
10. Like I said, the one near MRT does not need to board the LRT. And just FYI, the LRT has run both ways during peak time. They are going to be fully operate after those 40+ blocks completed in Punggol.
I think I just need to give 10 only lah...and please...look yourself in the mirror next time before you open your mouth and utter nonsense here...or else you will look $tupid leh...he he |
Most of your points are not true. Maybe you shld try staying with your parents for a short while, if you can stand it.
I agree that Punggol is one of the worst areas to stay in Sg. In the same league as Yishun, woodlands, jurong west |
You must be an old uncle...cant blame you though cos you cant walk or drive far to buy groceries...lol respect the youngster's decision to stay in quieter place lah...they certainly do not want to kill their time playing chinese chess at the void deck? All they need is a more peaceful environment after long week at work... take it easy lah..  |
But I agreed with uncle comment..
Punggol is far away from city.. & for those who have lower budget.. esp just start a family.
Quiet of course is quiet.. cos it totally can't compared to city living. |
Hello my friend...Punggol is only 30 minutes by MRT to D. Ghaut...Tampines is further away to the city than Punggol...and if you drive, it just needs you 10-15 mins to the city via KPE...Hello...how long have you been staying in Singapore? |
Is everyone staying in Punggol just beside MRT?
For Punggol.. as long as you kena CTE.. you are finished!! 
For Tampines.. as long as you kena PIE.. you also finished!!
But CTE is worst expressway in S'pore!
Never never stay in an estate which you need to rely on CTE very offen if you are driving! |
Totally agreed to your comment on CTE!
Is the worst expressway on S'pore. Always Jam!
Somemore pay & pay! Pay till you reach city. Even go home also pay till 10:30pm  |
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15 Oct 08 1:41 pm |
| Anonymous wrote: | | Anonymous wrote: | | Anonymous wrote: | | Anonymous wrote: | | Anonymous wrote: | | Anonymous wrote: | | Anonymous wrote: | | Anonymous wrote: | | Anonymous wrote: |
Aiya...try live in Indonesia loh where one have to travel AT LEAST 3 hours to work (+ traffic time).
Anyway, can't understand why so many people want to live in the city? I am staying in Punggol now, bought 430K...I especially look for the property there cos not many people live there yet...I like it as it feels relaxing...early in the morning take a stroll where there are still alot of greenery...do you still want to live in the city when you have spend 8 hrs+ a day, 5 days a week working in the city?? But it seems like there are so many constructions going on at Punggol...it will only be a matter of time before it flooded with humans!!! haizz... Singapore is so small...soon there will be no more place like this... |
430K for Punggol 5 room ? Kena con liao.
Why not live in better location like Bishan. Got nice park or Mcrichie reservoir for morning walk. Much better for nature lover like you say you are.
Punggol got what? You like morning walking on road pavement..not even got a park? Punggol also got the chemical factory smell during some nights. Plus all the noisy airplanes flying overhead.
With so much new construction to happen in Punggol, expect more noise and dust. Not even talking about the long commute time. LRT that runs in only one direction. Useless mall. worst.
Only reason people buy is because Punggol flats are new and have the first look wow factor. That works best to trap buyers. Only after they start living, they find out all the cons. Much better buy older flat in good location and get renovated to your taste. |
I am not sure why you said he ka na conned. I think you are also not in the position to comment as well because:
1. You have not seen his house
2. You most probably do not own any house
3. You do not have the knowledge on that area. Have been looking for Punggol area for quite sometimes and decided not to go near the MRT because the valuation for high floor easily 415K now.
4. Again, you do not have knowledge on that area hence you claim that there is nothing there in Punggol and chemical factory smell??? hahaha my parents stay there and do not smell anything there? Prove of your ignorance.
5. You do not know that the most expensive flat in Singapore is actually at Punggol.
6. You do not know that the plan on Punggol 21 has already started although Im not sure how fast they will speed up the construction considering current economy crisis. But if they do not speed up Punggol 21, they will not also at other places.
7. Visit www.punggol.org to understand more about Punggol
8. You must have been living in Singapore for the rest of your life...never live in suburb before.
9. noisy airplane? how big is Singapore's sky? I live in Serangoon and I also can constantly hear plane's noise? what about those who stay in Changi? Not sure why you said this though but won't be surprise after your above comment.
10. Like I said, the one near MRT does not need to board the LRT. And just FYI, the LRT has run both ways during peak time. They are going to be fully operate after those 40+ blocks completed in Punggol.
I think I just need to give 10 only lah...and please...look yourself in the mirror next time before you open your mouth and utter nonsense here...or else you will look $tupid leh...he he |
Most of your points are not true. Maybe you shld try staying with your parents for a short while, if you can stand it.
I agree that Punggol is one of the worst areas to stay in Sg. In the same league as Yishun, woodlands, jurong west |
You must be an old uncle...cant blame you though cos you cant walk or drive far to buy groceries...lol respect the youngster's decision to stay in quieter place lah...they certainly do not want to kill their time playing chinese chess at the void deck? All they need is a more peaceful environment after long week at work... take it easy lah.. |
But I agreed with uncle comment..
Punggol is far away from city.. & for those who have lower budget.. esp just start a family.
Quiet of course is quiet.. cos it totally can't compared to city living. |
Hello my friend...Punggol is only 30 minutes by MRT to D. Ghaut...Tampines is further away to the city than Punggol...and if you drive, it just needs you 10-15 mins to the city via KPE...Hello...how long have you been staying in Singapore? |
Is everyone staying in Punggol just beside MRT?
For Punggol.. as long as you kena CTE.. you are finished!!
For Tampines.. as long as you kena PIE.. you also finished!!
But CTE is worst expressway in S'pore!
Never never stay in an estate which you need to rely on CTE very offen if you are driving! |
Totally agreed to your comment on CTE!
Is the worst expressway on S'pore. Always Jam!
Somemore pay & pay! Pay till you reach city. Even go home also pay till 10:30pm |
Long live PAP!!! |
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15 Oct 08 2:06 pm |
| So is Resales Market Cooling Down? |
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15 Oct 08 2:21 pm |
yes! and definitely!
cheers! |
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15 Oct 08 2:26 pm |
| If resale cooling down, your job or business is cooling down. |
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15 Oct 08 2:31 pm |
| Everyone job will be on the line. But need not worry, the agents will be hit the hardest. |
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15 Oct 08 2:51 pm |
| Anonymous wrote: | | So is Resales Market Cooling Down? |
Cooling but no see down. |
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15 Oct 08 3:12 pm |
| will take a few more months to go down lor.. the damages are done to companies. some will just move out, some will just wind up, retrenchments will then set in. |
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15 Oct 08 3:44 pm |
| that means if resale market really cools down, then job and business will also cool down, so end up less transactions on resale, so lead to resale market even coooler....rite? |
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15 Oct 08 3:52 pm |
| Precisely........ |
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15 Oct 08 4:15 pm |
cos by then, uncertainties will grip anyone who is on a payroll. they will really need to think whether they will be the next to be retrenched or not. so massive financial committments such as housing, cars, tours, anything that are not absolutely necessary and that can be put off will be shifted to the back of the queue. it just makes no sense to get into a huge loan and find out you can't pay the monthly installments after a pay cut or worse, job loss.
those homeowners who cannot afford the payments will have to downgrade or move in with relatives, and when in urgent need of $, will sell at lower prices. agent will have less transactions too, so will advise sellers to sell lower too.
but flipping to the other side of the coin, if recession doesnt affect sg (which is impossible) and prices keep rising, sales will drop too. it doesn't mean that if there's a need, people will buy. when price reaches to ridiculous number (as some no brainer said, into the million) and salary remains at increments of only 2-5% increment annually whereas property shoots up 30-40% annually, buyers just can't afford the loan installments on the flat. so price will have to be adjusted down eventually. |
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15 Oct 08 4:30 pm |
| Anonymous wrote: | cos by then, uncertainties will grip anyone who is on a payroll. they will really need to think whether they will be the next to be retrenched or not. so massive financial committments such as housing, cars, tours, anything that are not absolutely necessary and that can be put off will be shifted to the back of the queue. it just makes no sense to get into a huge loan and find out you can't pay the monthly installments after a pay cut or worse, job loss.
those homeowners who cannot afford the payments will have to downgrade or move in with relatives, and when in urgent need of $, will sell at lower prices. agent will have less transactions too, so will advise sellers to sell lower too.
but flipping to the other side of the coin, if recession doesnt affect sg (which is impossible) and prices keep rising, sales will drop too. it doesn't mean that if there's a need, people will buy. when price reaches to ridiculous number (as some no brainer said, into the million) and salary remains at increments of only 2-5% increment annually whereas property shoots up 30-40% annually, buyers just can't afford the loan installments on the flat. so price will have to be adjusted down eventually. |
That is why they said the property price goes in cycle. At bad times, people do not want to commit to such huge commitment...and the price will drop eventually. but when the economy is good...everybody will rush and buy and drive the property price up again...maybe those first 50 who jump to the market will buy cheap and the subsequent buyers will find themselves having to pay much more...this is what happen the last time when alot of enblocker and PR rush to buy property... |
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15 Oct 08 4:48 pm |
| there will be more than 50 lah.. not to worry. PRs who bought flats here will lose jobs too, some will just sell their flats at lower prices and go to another country. some of those who rent flats or rooms will leave too,, leaving an oversupply of flats. what then happens to property investors if they can't find tenants? continue paying for empty home or sell? some of them will sell away the extra properties, hence bringing down the price again. sometimes during a time when sellers want to sell flats urgently, they will compete to price down their properties as in like in good times, they will compete to price up their properties. |
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15 Oct 08 4:49 pm |
| and anyway to clear it up, is not to buy cheap. but at reasonable prices. |
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15 Oct 08 5:11 pm |
| Anonymous wrote: | | Anonymous wrote: |
Is everyone staying in Punggol just beside MRT?
For Punggol.. as long as you kena CTE.. you are finished!!
For Tampines.. as long as you kena PIE.. you also finished!!
But CTE is worst expressway in S'pore!
Never never stay in an estate which you need to rely on CTE very offen if you are driving! |
Totally agreed to your comment on CTE!
Is the worst expressway on S'pore. Always Jam!
Somemore pay & pay! Pay till you reach city. Even go home also pay till 10:30pm |
So what do you plan to drive on...KPE ??
Do you know it will be the costeliest expressway in Singapore once all 7 or so ERP gantrys are up.
Imagine how much you will pay everyday driving from Punggol. |
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15 Oct 08 5:27 pm |
| Anonymous wrote: | | Anonymous wrote: | | Anonymous wrote: |
Is everyone staying in Punggol just beside MRT?
For Punggol.. as long as you kena CTE.. you are finished!!
For Tampines.. as long as you kena PIE.. you also finished!!
But CTE is worst expressway in S'pore!
Never never stay in an estate which you need to rely on CTE very offen if you are driving! |
Totally agreed to your comment on CTE!
Is the worst expressway on S'pore. Always Jam!
Somemore pay & pay! Pay till you reach city. Even go home also pay till 10:30pm |
So what do you plan to drive on...KPE ??
Do you know it will be the costeliest expressway in Singapore once all 7 or so ERP gantrys are up.
Imagine how much you will pay everyday driving from Punggol. |
Not only Punggol lah...there will be ERP gantries every 3m...THIS IS SINGAPORE!! |
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15 Oct 08 5:49 pm |
| Anonymous wrote: | http://www.straitstimes.com/Breaking%2BNews/Singapore/Story/STIStory_290786.html
Up or down???? |
Read between the lines:
Property developers sold 376 units of private homes, up from 325 units in Aug but down from 902 units in Jul ==> See the diff! 376 vs 902!!
They launched ... 767 units in Sept, up from 194 units in Aug. Half of them were unsold.
I have a thought.. In 1997, the fall in resale market is due to oversupply of HDB flats. If there is an oversupply of private properties, will it actually impact resale market? |
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