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LENA _F.D.W.G
Joined: 22 Aug 2006
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 27 Jun 08 2:56 pm |
| poor thing. perhaps u like to contact me 98532803 i will try to help u. |
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27 Jun 08 5:06 pm |
you also have to understand.
cooking is less expensive than eating out. in the morning if u want to fry eggs and bacon it is still cheaper than buying kaya toast.
airconditioning is something that a tenant can look forward to after a long day's work. it is a sort of rewarding him/herself with simple amenities like this.
350-500 is not easy money these days and tenants would rather pay the price of comfort than sleep in Singapore heat. |
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01 Jul 08 9:05 am |
Many pple are used to air-conditioner room. I think you should allow some cooking. Give and take, life will be easier.
For a lady who earns, $2000 a month, after deducting CPF and transport cost, she doesn't have very much to pay you for rental. Increasingly, pple are also looking to buy their own place.
Why don't you rent the place to a few guys instead? |
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cahya_suci
Joined: 20 Jul 2007
Posts: 54
Location: Taman Jurong
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01 Jul 08 1:17 pm |
To purchase an airconditioner is about $600 to $800 over here...Are the tenants willing to pay 50% amount as the usage also? I bet they won't. The least they willing to pay me only around $700-$800. Still it does not bring me any profit after minus the PUB bills airconditioner+gas=$500-$600 monthly especially now there's been so much increasing in power supply charges...
Very easy for tenants to speak based on their point of view.The fact is they want everything but they want it cheap while every items in singapore is no more cheap...how owners able to cope all the excess? anyway, there's totally nothing can change the tenants preception.
To survive heat in Singapore? some of foreigners, they even came from several poor countries, & they can survive in their own country (which could be much more worse than here) However when they step their feet in Singapore they forgets all the inconvienience that they ever used to live..Hecks! They forgets everything once they reach here...
When there's looks, there's price also...when you are not willing to pay...then better don't ask this & that...you all are just become another headache to the landlords...
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01 Jul 08 1:37 pm |
| cahya_suci wrote: | To purchase an airconditioner is about $600 to $800 over here...Are the tenants willing to pay 50% amount as the usage also? I bet they won't. The least they willing to me pay only around $700-$800. Still it does not bring me any profit after minus the PUB bills airconditioner+gas=$500-$600 monthly especially now there's been so much increasing in power supply charges...
Very easy for tenants to speak based on their point of view.The fact is they want everything but they want it cheap while every items in singapore is no more cheap...how owners able to cope all the excess? anyway, there's totally nothing can change the tenants preception.
To survive heat in Singapore? some of foreigners, they even came from several poor countries, & they can survive in their own country (which could be much more worse than here) However when they step their feet in Singapore they forgets all the inconvienience that they ever used to live..Hecks! They forgets everything once they reach here...
When there's looks, there's price also...when you are not willing to pay...then better don't ask this & that...you all are just become another headache to the landlords... |
Sis, this is an open market. You don't want to rent, other people want to rent. If it doesn't make sense for you to provide air con and cooking, how come other owner can provide? If others can do it for $400 and be happy, why is it that you need to charge $700 and still be unprofitable?
Maybe you should reflect on your own thinking. If it is so difficult, I suggest you don't rent. Better not to rent than to rent and you suffer sleepless nights.
If I am the tenant, I will also be very uncomfortable renting from you. Imagine everytime I switch on the air con, you get a headache. Very painful. Anyway, I don't like air-con and have bought my own house.
You mentioned that you are in need of money. One way is to mortgage your flat to the bank, if the loan is fully paid. Otherwise, you can try selling it in the open market.
Good luck. |
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cahya_suci
Joined: 20 Jul 2007
Posts: 54
Location: Taman Jurong
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01 Jul 08 2:25 pm |
Look Mr or Ms Guest...Thanks for your reply & suggestions,
They had been always pros & cons to rent out your room to people & I had a bad experience with tenant who does'nt know how to value the money we earned especially when she sat in the living room, watch tv & did not switch off the bedroom light.When she used the bathroom, never switch off the light after using it.plus how should I know, they are using the aircon and perhaps they'll forget to switch off it.& by the end of the months, the rental fee which is suppose to help me settle other financial issues, I have to spend half or third quater to pay the bills.Do you think $400 with aircon is profitable? I don't know about some people, but it really does not benefit us.
Anyway, searching tenants could be very easy...but to get a good tenant, that will definitely a pain for everyone.I hope $400 with A/C really shall help someone who's really in need of money.I wanted to save money not throw it somewhere I think does not benefit the owner of the house.
and yes, I unable to sell the house as its still under 5years of contract with HDB.So another option for me is to rent the room.I do hope there's a good tenant outhere who is humble and not demand this & that...
| Quote: | Sis, this is an open market. You don't want to rent, other people want to rent. If it doesn't make sense for you to provide air con and cooking, how come other owner can provide? If others can do it for $400 and be happy, why is it that you need to charge $700 and still be unprofitable?
Maybe you should reflect on your own thinking. If it is so difficult, I suggest you don't rent. Better not to rent than to rent and you suffer sleepless nights.
If I am the tenant, I will also be very uncomfortable renting from you. Imagine everytime I switch on the air con, you get a headache. Very painful. Anyway, I don't like air-con and have bought my own house.
You mentioned that you are in need of money. One way is to mortgage your flat to the bank, if the loan is fully paid. Otherwise, you can try selling it in the open market.
Good luck. |
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01 Jul 08 4:18 pm |
That's why there is such a thing called house rules and do's and don'ts. If thtey are not clear with that them don't let them live in your house. You have the option to choose your tenant and vice versa.
The reason for leaving the foreigner's "poorer" countries is to leave all the inconveniences behind and work in Singapore to afford simple luxuries in life. To be able to sleep with more comfort and do light cooking in case they are craving for homecooked meals.
The norm here is 450SGD-500SGD min to rent a room, but that is with airconditioning at least. 50SGD is share for PUB.
I think foreign workers/factory/sales ladies can afford your rental without ac but at least 2 should share a room to be able to pay 300 each. |
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04 Jul 08 5:27 pm |
You r totally wrong on t room rate. do u know wit ac running every night time at specified time only can easily bill up $75 per month minimum (estimated just only ac).
How do u judge t room rate whereas utilities is kept increasing and so do all t expenses here.
Remember t place here u r staying is Singapore. |
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04 Jul 08 5:37 pm |
a 2-br flat with 2 aircons running at 8 hrs every night including everything, water, light can have minimum of 220 to 250 SGD
I live here so I know what we pay for PUB. |
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05 Jul 08 11:02 am |
easy lah, TS.
Juz stated ur location, wot can be use(tv or no tv, fridge or no fridge, cook or no cook, laundry or no laundry, aircon or no aircon, bed...wardrobe....internet....etc) and ur asking price. If no reply, den ur asking too high. Make slight adjustment and repost it. Tis is how i get the "market price". Normally, wif aircon u can charge $70 xtra. $60 for electricity on 8-10hrs of usage, $10 for aircon servicing n maintainance. |
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05 Jul 08 3:40 pm |
When you want to rent out your room, you cannot have too many house rules. This cannot, that cannot. Not everyone is so discipline in terms of switching off lights/ air-con when not in use, especially people from other cultures where fuel is subsidised in their home country and water is in abundance.
Renting out the room and living with strangers, you have to give and take, quite often give more than you take. Live and let live. Being so conscious of utitlites and switching off lights, etc.. habits, I think there are not many of these "good tenants" around.
Subsequent disagreements between live in owners and tenants can be painful and exhausting for both parties. My suggestion to you is don't rent out your flat. The more I read about your postings, the more I feel you will have difficulty managing the relationship between tenant and you. If you really can find the ideal tenant, I will congratulate you for being in good luck.
If you need money in the short term, go and get personal financing from banks. Bear in mind that the interest is not cheap. If you cannot afford to keep the flat, appeal to your MP and HDB to sell it before the 5 year mark. If you have good reasons, I am sure the government will empathise with your situation.
No offence to you. My neigbour who is very friendly was just like your case. She had a lot of difficulty getting along with the typical tenant and one of them took her to Court. It turned out to be very ugly for both sides. I hope you won't need to suffer from this. Cheers. |
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cahya_suci
Joined: 20 Jul 2007
Posts: 54
Location: Taman Jurong
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06 Jul 08 1:02 am |
Dear Mr/Ms Anonymous,
If you say I'm petty for little things then you are wrong. I had two previous tenants before. The first tenant was so considerate till she doesn't need me to buy a single thing for her. Everytime she's aware that once she finished using the electricity she'll switched it off (i think it is very logic & common sense). She never had any problems with that & the reasons she moved only becos she had found a hostel room near her campus. I gladly understand & we do give each other a hug before she's leaving... She even bought me a gift! (ask her if I'm being too petty!)
Anyway, I have found a tenant for one of my common bedroom. She's bringing cats with her & we have no problems at all. We don't even ask extra charges for the pets. When you are living at somebody's house, you should follow the rules & regulations. It's not the kind of rules which will make you die when you doing it. Very easy rule, if you switch ON electric or tap water then do not forget to switch/turn it OFF. Don't you think it is very easy to do so?
And yes, someone with manners... like when the owner infront of you, don't put your legs on the table...that is very rude...
It happens in everywhere in the world, when you are in overseas you gotta follow the country's laws & rules. It's not like you can do whatever you want in here & just becos you are foreigner, the govt shall let you off just like that...same goes to this case, when you're living in somebody's else house you can't just do as you please...It will definitely creates tension between the landlord & tenants.
I know there are some good tenants outhere, maybe I just haven't found one yet...Everything will be fine...I hope so... 
| Anonymous wrote: | When you want to rent out your room, you cannot have too many house rules. This cannot, that cannot. Not everyone is so discipline in terms of switching off lights/ air-con when not in use, especially people from other cultures where fuel is subsidised in their home country and water is in abundance.
Renting out the room and living with strangers, you have to give and take, quite often give more than you take. Live and let live. Being so conscious of utitlites and switching off lights, etc.. habits, I think there are not many of these "good tenants" around. |
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cahya_suci
Joined: 20 Jul 2007
Posts: 54
Location: Taman Jurong
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06 Jul 08 1:26 am |
Hi there,
Thanks for giving me guidelines. But I've already done the adjustments... decreasing the rental fee is the best way if I can't provide such amenities. However almost third quarter of the tenants (that looking for rooms) are asking for aircon & gas usage. So, that's where all the questions lies... aircon, gas, aircon, gas, aircon, gas...Some even asking for a cleaner to clean up their room with a monthly rental fee of $500 (to be included; aircon, gas, laundry, fridge , cleaner) LOL... 
| Anonymous wrote: | | Juz stated ur location, wot can be use and ur asking price. If no reply, den ur asking too high. Make slight adjustment and repost it. Tis is how i get the "market price". Normally, wif aircon u can charge $70 xtra. $60 for electricity on 8-10hrs of usage, $10 for aircon servicing n maintainance. |
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07 Jul 08 7:58 am |
| not happy then don't rent out. you making so much noises here. you may die of heart disease like that. |
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cahya_suci
Joined: 20 Jul 2007
Posts: 54
Location: Taman Jurong
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07 Jul 08 8:28 am |
I still gotta rent out my room cos I need the money. But I do not want my room to be rented by some unconsiderate people like you. I'm stating the facts and you can't accept it. I think you the one will die of heart disease....
| Anonymous wrote: | | not happy then don't rent out. you making so much noises here. you may die of heart disease like that. |
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08 Jul 08 3:14 pm |
| cahya_suci wrote: | [color=brown]Dear Mr/Ms Anonymous,
If you say I'm petty for little things then you are wrong. I'm had two previous tenants before. [/size] |
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Well, you know yourself better than me. I can only read from your postings which I feel reflect your thoughts. As in our things in cyberspace, you can be a very different person from your posting and possibly be a generous person at heart.
There are already suggestions for you to approach your MP to seek help in selling your property. If you can be lucky to get considerate tenants, I congratulate you. What seem to be logical simple good habits may not be as widely shared as you have experience with the 2 tenants.
Cheers. |
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08 Jul 08 3:20 pm |
| cahya_suci wrote: | I still gotta rent out my room cos I need the money. But I do not want my room to be rented by some unconsiderate people like you. I'm stating the facts and you can't accept it. I think you the one will die of heart disease....
| Anonymous wrote: | | not happy then don't rent out. you making so much noises here. you may die of heart disease like that. |
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I think the anonymous writer is talking about your deep concerns in choosing the right tenant or the tenant have to exhibit the right habits in order to peacefully co-exist in your house with you.
The writer is also implying that you will get heart attack if you get the usual type of tenant who is not too bothered with following your set of house rules.
Basically, the pple are telling you that it is better for you to think of other sources of financing, other than renting out a room in your house. You may be better off not renting and seek other sources of financing.
Hope you will see the posting in a positive light. |
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09 Jul 08 1:26 pm |
| cahya_suci, I think you are better off not renting your place out. You and your husband can try taking on additional job or take ready credit to tide you over your financial condition. |
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cahya_suci
Joined: 20 Jul 2007
Posts: 54
Location: Taman Jurong
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10 Jul 08 10:18 am |
Hi All
Thanks for all the ideas & suggestions...Truly appreciate it...Now I'm taking up a sewing classes & some other skills. So, I'll hope with all these I could use it as a side income for us...
I welcome any ideas & suggestions. So kindly input it here if you have any... 
Thanks once again... |
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